Melissa Murray: I agree with every thing Symone mentioned. One factor that caught out to me is one thing that a few of the girls in our Washington, D.C. nail salon section mentioned about this being an historic election. They understood that, however additionally they acknowledge that if Vice President Harris wins, and even when she shatters the glass ceiling, she’ll truly be on a glass cliff. Expectations for her might be so heightened.

So that they acknowledge that for Black girls, supporting her isn’t a one and carried out sort of deal. They’re going to return out and help her and vote for her on this election, they usually additionally need to be able to help her within the presidency, as a result of she’s going to have numerous eyes on her. Her successes might be acknowledged, but when she fails to succeed on sure fronts, that can even be magnified.

Townsend: Going again to that half that Melissa simply highlighted, the ladies within the nail store introduced this up on their very own. After which they likened it to President Biden in terms of scholar loans. Though he did put the coverage in place, the Supreme Courtroom blocked it. And younger folks throughout America are nonetheless saying that we don’t have the coed mortgage reform.

The ladies particularly mentioned that she’s going to have to have the ability to make good on the guarantees that she’s made. To me, that simply reinforces that voters are paying consideration. We now have to present the voters in America extra credit score. They’re paying consideration and are very nuanced in how they consider this election.

We’ve seen a gender hole emerge within the polls with extra girls planning to vote for Harris than males. Did you hear of that divide present between Black women and men?

Murray: We did hear a bit about that. There’s been numerous dialogue about Black males—notably younger Black males with out school levels—being very Trump-curious, and we puzzled if the identical kind of curiosity is likely to be mirrored amongst youthful Black girls in that demographic. We have been a bit stunned to seek out that whereas most of the youthful girls have been undoubtedly disaffected, they weren’t Trump-curious. It was actually simply, “Do I sit this one out?” Versus, “Do I pull the lever for Donald Trump?” They have been very clear that, of their view, he was an existential menace.

Townsend: I feel that the gender hole that’s displaying up in a few of the polling is indicative that there’s nonetheless work to be carried out. That is going to be a detailed election, and the polls are a snapshot in time, however there’s nonetheless work to do in terms of some subset of male voters for the Harris marketing campaign. Concurrently, there’s actual work to do for Donald Trump in terms of girls voters in America. I really feel just like the work that the Vice President has to do is completely different, and I’d argue, extra attainable than the work that Trump has to do, simply due to the character of the issues that Trump himself has mentioned and the insurance policies that individuals join him to.