On this episode of the Advertising B2B Know-how podcast, Mike is joined by Sophie Neate, International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB Electrification. Sophie dives into her profession journey and gives a glimpse into the methods that set ABB aside. She discusses how ABB leverages its strengths throughout industries to ship worth to a broad viewers and the way it strategically communicates to completely different buyer segments.

A key focus of the dialog is the client’s journey, an essential framework Sophie makes use of to information potential prospects from consciousness to decision-making. She discusses her strategy to integrating the client’s journey into marketing campaign planning, hanging a stability between long-term model constructing and the fast priorities of lead technology and gross sales help.

About ABB

Constructing on over 140 years of excellence, our greater than 105,000 workers worldwide are dedicated to delivering on our function with improvements that create success for ABB and all our stakeholders. Our options join engineering know-how and software program to optimize how issues are manufactured, moved, powered and operated. In collaboration with our prospects, companions and suppliers, we deal with the world’s power challenges, remodel industries and embed sustainability in every thing we do.

About Sophie Neate

Sophie is a senior advertising chief with over 16 years of expertise throughout the whole advertising cycle. Her background consists of working for blue-chip firms on a world scale, the place she has held international administration roles, presently holding the place of International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material for ABB’s Electrification Service division. She has been answerable for establishing advertising groups and key capabilities, driving initiatives which have persistently delivered profitable outcomes.

With in depth information, functionality, and a strategic mindset in advertising, Sophie delivers sturdy industrial outcomes. Sophie holds a Bachelor of Enterprise Research (BBS) with a serious in Advertising.

 Time Stamps

[00:43:2] – Sophie gives an summary of her profession background. [03:14.6] – Sophie shares insights into what makes ABB distinctive. [05:58:7] – Sophie discusses the significance of the client’s journey in creating efficient advertising campaigns. [14:26:9] – Sophie explains the advertising techniques that work finest in several eventualities. [18:20:0] – Sophie talks about balancing the fast calls for of lead technology with the long-term objective of constructing a powerful model fame. [21:18:7] – Sophie discusses AI and the way she sees her function evolving alongside developments in AI. [22:17:2] – Sophie shares the perfect piece of selling recommendation she’s ever acquired. [23:17:2] – Sophie gives recommendation for these simply beginning their advertising careers.

Quotes

“My ardour lies in offering the perfect buyer expertise by way of modern options and dealing for a corporation like ABB who satisfaction themselves on this imaginative and prescient.” – Sophie Neate, International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB.

“The customer’s journey for me is essential in advertising as a result of it maps out the trail {that a} potential buyer takes from changing into conscious of the issue to creating a buying choice.” – Sophie Neate, International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB.

“Segmentation and concentrating on is vital… we’re capable of construct belief and credibility, which permits repeat buying and ongoing loyalty.” – Sophie Neate, International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB.

Observe Sophie:

Sophie Neate on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-neate-2ba37849/

ABB web site: https://international.abb/group/en

ABB on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/firm/abb/posts/?feedView=all

Observe Mike:

Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/

Napier web site: https://www.napierb2b.com/

Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/

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Transcript: Interview with Sophie Neate at ABB

Audio system: Mike Maynard, Sophie Neate

Mike: Thanks for listening to Advertising B2B Tech, the podcast from Napier, the place yow will discover out what actually works in B2B advertising at present. Welcome to Advertising B2B Know-how, the podcast from Napier. At this time I’m joined by Sophie Neate, who’s the International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB.  Welcome to the podcast, Sophie.

Sophie: Thanks, Mike. Good to be right here.

Mike: It’s nice to have you ever on. I imply, one of many first issues we love to do is simply get a little bit of background about your profession. So, are you able to inform us about, the way you’ve bought to the purpose the place you’re now working at ABB?

Sophie: Yeah, no drawback. So, I’m a senior advertising chief with over 16 years of expertise throughout the whole advertising cycle.  My skilled background consists of roles with blue chip firms on a world scale the place I’ve held international administration positions.  My ardour lies in offering the perfect buyer expertise by way of modern options and dealing for a corporation like ABB who satisfaction themselves on this imaginative and prescient. So, to reply your query, Mike, I selected to work for ABB for a large number of causes, however the primary ones being that ABB embodies innovation. Sustainability in a buyer centered mindset all whereas offering alternatives for skilled progress.

Mike: And your function is International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material at ABB. You recognize, ABB, which is a reasonably large firm, that feels like an enormous function. So, are you able to inform me somewhat bit extra about what you’re doing in your present place?

Sophie: Yeah, no drawback. So, as you talked about, I’m the International Head of Digital Advertising and Content material for ABB Electrification Service. So, one among our divisions which sit within the enterprise space of electrification. So, what my function encompasses is specializing in digital exercise, whether or not that be, I’d say search engine marketing, SEM actions, clearly managing and masking the administration of our web sites, however then additionally from a content material perspective, ensuring that we develop compelling content material that’s going to resonate for our prospects. Now with ABB being in over 100 nations and having over 105 proficient workers, it undoubtedly is a giant international function, however what we are inclined to concentrate on is we produce international content material, however then we localize it to mirror on the present market tendencies for the related areas and nations that we cowl.

Mike: And that’s attention-grabbing. So, you’re centered on the, the service a part of the electrification enterprise. What are the kind of prospects that you just’re addressing, for that a part of ABB?

Sophie: Yeah, so our prospects can vary from, you understand, the upkeep or manufacturing supervisor, plant and facility supervisor. The procurement supervisor by way of to your C suite, so like your CEOs, CFOs, for instance, however once more, it will depend on what advertising exercise we’re doing and what our total goal is, I might say.

Mike: Yeah. So presumably that’s fairly a variety of, individuals within the viewers. So that you’re producing numerous various kinds of content material, you understand, some for extra technical, some for, you understand, board stage individuals. Is that proper?

Sophie: Appropriate, right.

Mike: I imply, clearly we work with ABB, I perceive it, however most likely among the listeners are perhaps much less acquainted. So, by way of the electrification enterprise that you just’re supporting, what’s it that ABB does that’s actually uniquely sensible?

Sophie: Yeah, this, that is a straightforward query to reply right here. So, you understand, I discussed earlier than we, um, excel in an enormous variety of disciplines, however the ones that come to my thoughts are At the beginning, innovation and automation and electrification. So what that is, is round, you understand, we’re a world chief in industrial automation and electrification providing options, enhanced productiveness, effectivity and sustainability for industries like manufacturing, Power and transportation, you understand, experience in robotics, management techniques and digital know-how, resembling AI IOT helps companies automate processes and optimize operations. Secondly, sustainability and power effectivity. So we’re identified for our dedication to sustainability, offering power environment friendly options and inexperienced applied sciences, particularly in areas like, renewable power, EVs or electrical car infrastructure and good grids. So our applied sciences assist cut back power consumptions and emissions, supporting industries and cities and their transitions to turn into extra sustainable operations. a factor I discussed earlier than, you understand, we’ve got a world attain with native experience. So we function in over 100 nations, combining our international scale with deep native experience. So we’ve got a powerful concentrate on analysis and growth with a major funding in R& D.  We proceed to push the boundaries of know-how, as I discussed earlier than. And eventually, or moreover, we’ve got a complete digital answer providing, which is known as ABB Skill, which integrates cloud based mostly applied sciences and knowledge analytics to assist firms monitor and enhance their efficiency. So, these options help predictive upkeep, resembling, you understand, the division I’m in, electrification service, making us a key participant in Trade.

Mike: That’s, I imply, that’s lots of areas that we’re coping with, so, yeah, it’s sophisticated. I imply, I’m , you understand, type of at a excessive stage, what’s your technique to speak, all these completely different areas the place ABB have one thing that’s actually beneficial to what’s, as we mentioned earlier, fairly a broad viewers?

Sophie: Yeah, one other nice query, Mike. So with out giving an excessive amount of away, um, and at a excessive stage, our technique actually focuses on capitalizing on our strengths in know-how, like I simply talked about, innovation and sustainability, while aligning with market tendencies and buyer wants, all whereas making certain we proceed to ship sturdy industrial outcomes for the enterprise. In order that’s type of it in a nutshell.

Mike: Effectively, I’m going to dig a bit deeper. So, one of many issues I do know is that you just’re a giant fan of the client’s journey as a method to construct advertising methods. So, are you able to simply clarify why you assume, constructing and understanding the client’s journey is so essential to generate nice advertising campaigns?

Sophie: Yeah, so the client’s journey for me is essential in advertising as a result of it maps out the trail {that a} potential buyer takes from changing into conscious of the issue to creating a buying choice. So, understanding this journey permits us entrepreneurs to Ship the fitting message on the proper time. And that is the place I’d say segmentation and concentrating on is vital right here. You recognize, we’re capable of construct belief and credibility. So that allows repeat buying and ongoing loyalty, which is, after all, essential, you understand, enhancing the client expertise. So creating that buyer centricity or delivering that buyer centricity, optimizing sources and efforts so you may evolve to market tendencies over time, as a result of everyone knows with market tendencies, they do evolve. After which, after all, growing conversion charges of your advertising actions so you may ship ROI. So, should you can’t report an ROI, what you’re doing just isn’t essentially the easiest way to make the most of your sources. Um, after which, after all, which is one which I’m continuously, um, I’d say, speaking and emphasizing is the alignment between gross sales and advertising. So, which is an initiative, as I discussed, that’s a part of. We’re putting a extremely large significance on right here at ABB. So finally for me, the client’s journey is essential as a result of it permits entrepreneurs to be extra strategic, focused, and empathetic within the strategy, main to raised enterprise outcomes and extra happy prospects, which is our finish objective for any enterprise, to be sincere.

Mike: I believe you’ve coated quite a bit there. I imply, there’s lots of, particular person factors. Do you’ve got like a, an total technique or course of to truly make use of that purchaser’s journey when planning campaigns?

Sophie: That’s a giant query. So, when planning our campaigns, integrating the client’s journey helps be certain that every stage of the client choice making course of is addressed successfully. So how we do that at ABB, so first we separate our campaigns into consciousness and lead technology. So, our communications groups concentrate on campaigns within the consciousness stage, so throughout model and thought management. Whereas Lead technology is roofed by the advertising group, which focuses round that commercialization. So, you understand, for instance, an exercise, should you had been doing consciousness, you’ll, you understand, for instance, make the most of Google show as a part of your technique. Whereas when it comes down to steer technology, we are inclined to focus extra on Google search as a result of we perceive that, you understand, prospects like to do their analysis earlier than they attain out to us. And in reality, it’s confirmed that, you understand, 65. 70 p.c of shoppers, by the point they arrive to our web sites or work together with us, they’ve already made up their choice by that quantity. So, it’s actually essential we, you understand, ship that content material that’s going to resonate with them and be on the forefront. So secondly, we determine the worth proposition and industrial panorama seashore campaigns to make sure that we’re segmenting our actions successfully. Thus, figuring out our target market and understanding the maturity of our patrons’ market. As a result of as I discussed in the beginning, depending on our goal of our exercise, we have to perceive what the target market goes to be and clearly the maturity of that market. So, a key factor that we additionally do is earlier than we launch externally, we additionally launch internally. So, we should get our buyer dealing with groups, resembling gross sales operations, et cetera, to be on board to make sure that we’re all aligned and perceive.  As a result of we perceive that after we do campaigns, it’s a multi contact strategy, so they might not, you understand, interact with our digital platforms. They could ring up our buyer contact middle. So, we have to be sure that our buyer contact middle groups are briefed as properly. And so I discussed with our gross sales and operation groups. The opposite factor we do is we implement a multi-channel strategy. We additionally go from, as I discussed, producing international content material, however ensuring it’s bought an area strategy. So, we go international, as we wish to say. So, we do that to make sure our belongings and key messaging, resonates with our viewers, which, after all, nurtures leads from advertising, certified results in gross sales, certified leads, using advertising applied sciences like we do at ABB. We use Energy BI to repeatedly monitor our efficiency and adapt the place obligatory, whether or not it’s on a month-to-month cadence or quarterly cadence. So, one factor I do additionally need to state right here is that, you understand, we at ABB are beginning to transfer away from gating content material so we will present our prospects as a lot data as doable to assist them of their choice making section. So, as I discussed earlier than, analysis has proven that by the point prospects attain out to us, they’ve 70 p.c made the choice. So, it’s our job I consider to offer all of them the knowledge they want up entrance, and we do that by placing our worth wealthy content material on the forefront as an alternative of a tough promote strategy, for instance. So, we have to construct belief earlier than we shut any offers, so to talk. So I consider there may be nonetheless a spot for gated content material. Nevertheless, it simply will depend on which stage of the advertising enjoyable you’re at. So, for instance, consciousness, the consideration section, we are inclined to ungate our content material, whereas it will get right down to the conversion section, we are inclined to gate content material, however solely, um, underneath particular circumstances, for instance. So once more, simply one thing to contemplate once you had been, I’d say, Producing content material and campaigns depending on the client’s journey. The ultimate factor, I do really feel that by aligning campaigns with purchaser’s journey, you make sure that every interplay feels related and well timed, which not solely improves the client expertise, but in addition will increase the chance of conversion, which is our goal after we’re doing campaigns.

Mike: I believed it was a fantastic reply. You coated so many issues there. So, I believe I’m going to attempt to dig in and unpack a few of these. in the beginning you had been speaking somewhat bit about among the platforms you utilize. and I believe, you understand, what lots of entrepreneurs, you understand, perhaps are involved about now could be their Martech stack. It’s a really costly factor to construct. do you utilize that purchaser’s journey to truly outline what instruments you’ve got within the Martech stack?

Sophie: Yeah, completely. So, the patrons journey just isn’t solely central to marketing campaign planning, as I discussed, but in addition performs a essential function in shaping our Martech stack. So, the set of selling applied sciences that we use to successfully interact, nurture and convert prospects at every stage of the journey. So aligning our Martech stack with the patrons journey, We are able to optimize every contact level and be certain that our advertising actions are knowledge pushed and buyer centric. So, for instance, on the consciousness stage, we use search engine marketing instruments, to assist drive high quality content material to our prospects on the consideration stage. For instance, we use advertising automation platforms and webinar instruments to assist educate and drive worth to our prospects. After which lastly, on the conversion stage, we use instruments that assist gross sales groups convert certified leads.  After which for the publish gross sales stage, for instance, we use something from survey instruments, e mail advertising and retention instruments to assist retain upsell and nurture our prospects

Mike: I like the best way you assume so clearly concerning the Martek stack and the instruments you want. I imply, what do you assume individuals do flawed after they construct Martek stacks which are both ineffective, tough to make use of or costly? What are the errors they make?

Sophie: Yeah, I like, I like getting requested this query as a result of I do get requested this query fairly a bit. So, that is a straightforward reply for me. So, you understand, I really feel that doing and implementing. Every part and something simply because it’s a pattern versus specializing in the enterprise fashions and wishes of the enterprise might be the most important mistake that I see some firms make. So, my recommendation right here is to rigorously sleep the know-how that’s going to go with your technique and add worth to your prospects. So, we have to be sure that prospects are at all times king. put them on the forefront of each choice we make and that features after we go to pick Know-how. So, we have to use it properly and respectfully, as a result of as we all know, know-how nowadays is tremendous highly effective and if used within the flawed nature, it may be catastrophic. Proper? So, in every thing we do, we should, like I discussed, put our prospects on the forefront and undertake the mantra of buyer is king. And we have to try this whereas we, I’ll say, choose the advertising know-how that’s going to ship the perfect consequence for the enterprise, however extra importantly, our prospects.

Mike: I believe that’s a fantastic reply. And I like the thought of not following trend in Martek, however really what it brings you. So, in order that’s. In a means type of apparent, however really I believe one thing lots of people neglect.

Sophie: I agree.

Mike: You’ve talked somewhat bit earlier concerning the hyperlink between advertising techniques and completely different phases within the buyer journey, do you need to delve somewhat bit deeper into that and speak about which advertising techniques work finest for you in several conditions?

Sophie: Yeah. So based mostly on my expertise, and I’ve over 16 years of that, account based mostly advertising or ABM. So, for me, why it really works is. For prime worth B2B shoppers, resembling the purchasers we’ve got at ABB, ABM or account based mostly advertising focuses on personalised campaigns tailor-made to particular accounts. So, you understand, if we’re specializing in knowledge middle shoppers or F& B shoppers, meals and beverage shoppers, for instance, we will tailor Content material that’s going to resonate for them versus doing a inventory normal, uh, content material base. It’s going to resonate throughout the board. We need to be tremendous particular as a result of that’s what’s going to get the very best engagement. So, as I discussed, by crafting extremely related content material and messaging for key choice makers, resembling I discussed earlier than, the C suite, you understand, our upkeep supervisor, facility supervisor, for instance, it drives stronger engagement and better conversion charges. Secondly, knowledge pushed advertising analytics. So, with me, each choice I make is knowledge pushed, so to talk. So why it really works for me is, um, knowledge pushed advertising permits you to observe the efficiency of campaigns and make knowledgeable selections. So, by analyzing buyer habits and marketing campaign metrics, You’ll be able to repeatedly refine your strategy for higher outcomes, which goes to be higher for the enterprise as properly, proper? Thirdly, uh, digital promoting and retargeting. So that is the place my principal duties lie inside the function So why it really works, digital adverts, resembling Google, LinkedIn show adverts, let you attain focused viewers effectively, retargeting adverts, maintain your model prime of thoughts. For prospects who’ve already interacted along with your web site and content material. So, the objective is to maintain them coming again and wanting extra. You need to whet their urge for food, proper? And the way you do that’s by using digital, promoting, like I discussed, to maintain driving them again to our internet pages or to a specific platform and ensuring that every time they go to our web site, we place to them a distinct kind of expertise, that’s extra focused as they go down the funnel. Fourthly, search engine marketing and inbound advertising. So, search engine marketing, search engine marketing. So why it really works is that it ensures that our web site ranks for key phrases related to our viewers. So, a stable inbound advertising technique attracts prime quality natural site visitors and nurtures leads with beneficial content material. So, I simply need to give an instance right here, Mike. So, we just lately did a buyer analysis survey and located that our prospects use our web site as one of many prime channels to acquire data. So that is together with direct interplay with our gross sales reps, after all. However the factor that actually stood out for me, which, you understand, web sites, not now not enterprise playing cards, for instance, they’re turning into lead technology machines and this analysis, consequence proves that, prospects are going to our web site and doing the analysis earlier than they work together with us. So, it’s an actual prime channel that we’re going to make the most of shifting ahead to, I’ll say, drive additional content material and messaging to our prospects. So, for this reason we make investments rather a lot in our web site search engine marketing technique. So, with our latest ongoing marketing campaign, as I discussed, what we’re doing is driving site visitors to our web site utilizing each search engine marketing and SEM initiatives. We additionally discovered after one 12 months of implementing our search engine marketing technique, and everyone knows that search engine marketing methods, it’s a marathon, not a dash, proper? However after one 12 months, we noticed a 58 p.c in progress 12 months on 12 months. So, as I discussed, it’s a marathon, not a dash, however it’s actually good to see that, you understand, we will see these constructive outcomes and we’ve got additionally some thrilling actions taking place subsequent 12 months, which relate to our web site. So, uh, keep tuned, proper?

Mike: That sounds actually thrilling. I imply, Once more, we’ve coated rather a lot there. However one of many themes I believe was run by way of that is that you just appear to have a really clear differentiation between, constructing the notice, constructing the model and educating prospects to truly producing leads. So are you able to simply dig somewhat bit deeper about the way you stability that long run objective of constructing model, and actually serving to individuals in the beginning of their journey, versus driving leads and presumably making your gross sales group somewhat happier.

Sophie: Yeah, completely. So, balancing the fast calls for of lead technology with long run objective of constructing a powerful model fame requires a strategic strategy that integrates each brief time period and long run advertising targets. So that is how, that is the strategy I take to, you understand, have that stability. So, it’s throughout built-in technique, proper? So, I be certain that each lead technology and model constructing actions are aligned. Inside an overarching advertising technique. So, whereas lead technology campaigns are usually extra direct and centered on driving conversions, as I discussed earlier, they’re designed to mirror the model values, messaging and promise. Like I discussed across the commercialization, of any technique that you must set. So, this creates consistency between fast outcomes. And as I discussed earlier than, long run model fairness, which is de facto essential.  Secondly, creating content material that serves each targets. So, for instance, a white paper or webinar can set up trade experience, so model constructing, whereas amassing contact data or driving prospects additional down the funnel, which pertains to lead technology. So, it’s actually essential that, you understand, once you develop content material, as a result of content material is king, we have to be sure that serving each targets round lead gen can also be model constructing. fame as properly. So, I maintain hopping on, however it’s throughout knowledge pushed optimization as properly. So, as I discussed earlier than, I depend on knowledge analytics to measure and optimize each lead technology and mind constructing efforts. So, this entails, for instance, setting KPIs for every and often reviewing efficiency, whether or not, as I discussed earlier than, that be on a month-to-month foundation or quarterly foundation. So, by analyzing buyer habits, I can determine alternatives the place brief time period campaigns can help long run mind notion and vice versa, after all. Lastly, what I really feel is throughout getting the equal stability is a buyer centric strategy. As I maintain mentioning, buyer is king, proper? So a powerful concentrate on understanding the client journey permits for tailoring advertising efforts that help fast engagement with out shedding sight of the model’s long run fame, for instance. So, this implies making certain that even lead centered initiatives ship worth to the client. Reinforcing the model promise of high quality and experience can also be equally essential.  So these are the, the 4, uh, the 4 issues that I actually concentrate on to get that, uh, stability.

Mike: I believe that’s nice. And I like the best way that you just hyperlink very carefully the advantages of name constructing and in addition the lead gen and the very fact they work collectively. They’re not two impartial issues.  to maneuver on and speak somewhat bit, perhaps extra about wanting on the trade on the whole. and one of many stuff you’ve talked quite a bit about is being pushed by knowledge, which actually is a comparatively new factor, you understand, perhaps coming during the last decade. so, you understand, that’s been one change. Clearly, AI is a newer change. how do you see the function of senior entrepreneurs, CMOs, VPs of selling, altering, maybe over the following 5 to 10 years? with know-how. I imply, what’s going to occur and what’s going to alter?

Sophie: Yeah, so, I imply, I personally see my function evolving to be a extra central driver of enterprise progress and innovation. So, with the rise of AI, as you talked about, you understand, knowledge analytics and different rising applied sciences that we touched on, the function will more and more demand a mixture of each strategic management, acumen and buyer and a buyer centric strategy. So, with that, clearly, know-how goes to help that. However I undoubtedly consider that, you understand, as an alternative of it being a extra conventional.  It’s going to go extra into, you understand, being a task that’s going to be, a middle driver of enterprise progress and innovation. So, there’s going to be lots of evolution taking place. which is an effective factor. So, we have to evolve with the trade and the tendencies as properly.

Mike: Appears like that’s fairly a problem for senior entrepreneurs to, take a extra enterprise centered function.  Um, this has been fascinating. I imply, we’ve coated, I believe, an terrible lot of floor on this dialog. there are a few questions we’d wish to ask individuals, earlier than we end off.

So, if I simply hearth them out at you. The primary query is de facto easy. What’s the perfect piece of selling recommendation you’ve ever been given?

Sophie: I’ve had lots of mentors and lots of recommendation given to me through the years that I’ve been within the advertising subject. However among the finest items that I can recall, is concentrate on fixing buyer issues, not simply promoting a product. So, it emphasizes the necessity I really feel to really perceive your viewers, their ache factors and the way your answer could make their lives simpler as a result of, you understand, it’s all about making everybody’s lives simpler. And if yow will discover an answer to try this, advertising actions will probably be straightforward, so to talk. So, when advertising is centered on the worth it brings, quite than simply the options of the services or products, it fosters a deeper reference to our prospects. So, you understand, it builds belief and finally, will drive loyalty, retention, and ongoing gross sales and alternatives.

Mike: Excellent. I imply, that’s nice recommendation that everybody can make the most of. the opposite query we wish to ask is should you’re speaking to an adolescent who’s beginning out of their profession, contemplating shifting into advertising, maybe a graduate, what could be your recommendation to them to assist construct a fantastic profession in advertising?

Sophie: Sure, so advertising to me as a lot as a lot about psychology is it’s about creating and strategizing, so to talk, proper? So concentrate on, you understand, understanding what drives individuals’s selections and feelings, find out about human habits. Not simply concerning the newest advertising prepare. So that you perceive what resonates or what makes an individual tick on. After which when you’ve bought that worth proposition, as I discussed in my earlier reply,  the advertising actions that you just make use of or implement will will come straightforward or or fly. So don’t simply concentrate on the newest advertising trains. As I discussed earlier than, don’t simply concentrate on the newest advertising know-how and apply it. Just be sure you perceive and have that deeper connection along with your prospects and construct that belief and loyalty.

Mike: And I believe that’s a incredible method to finish. We’ve come again to actually perceive the client journey as being the important thing.

Sophie: Completely.

Mike: Thanks a lot for sharing all of your information and perception. if individuals wish to pay money for you, what could be the easiest way for them to contact you to get extra data?

Sophie: Yeah. So should you can attain out to me on LinkedIn, should you simply Google Sophie Neat, ABB and, uh, I’ll seem and yeah, please join. I’m joyful to have an offline dialog with, uh, any up and coming marketeer or, uh, marketeer that has been within the enterprise for some time.

Mike: Superb. That’s very beneficiant. Thanks a lot to your time, Sophie. I actually admire you being a visitor on the podcast.

Sophie: Nice. Thanks, Mike. Beautiful to be right here. Thanks for having me.