{"id":68273,"date":"2025-03-12T00:32:33","date_gmt":"2025-03-12T00:32:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2025\/03\/12\/judge-uses-dds-failure-to-make-him-worship-satan-to-school-florida-on-social-media-moral-panics\/"},"modified":"2025-03-12T00:34:01","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T00:34:01","slug":"judge-uses-dds-failure-to-make-him-worship-satan-to-school-florida-on-social-media-moral-panics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2025\/03\/12\/judge-uses-dds-failure-to-make-him-worship-satan-to-school-florida-on-social-media-moral-panics\/","title":{"rendered":"Judge Uses D&amp;D\u2019s Failure To Make Him Worship Satan To School Florida On Social Media Moral Panics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/wp-content\/themes\/techdirt\/assets\/images\/techdirt-white-square.png\" \/><\/p>\n<div>\n<h3>from the <i>was-he-the-dungeon-master?<\/i> dept<\/h3>\n<p>When Florida\u2019s legal professionals tried to defend the state\u2019s social media age restriction regulation by claiming it\u2019s \u201cwell-known\u201d that platforms hurt youngsters, they in all probability weren\u2019t anticipating to get schooled on ethical panics by a choose citing his personal experiences with\u2026 Dungeons &amp; Dragons. However that\u2019s precisely what occurred in a current listening to difficult Florida\u2019s unconstitutional regulation barring youngsters from social media \u2014 and it completely illustrated why we must be deeply skeptical of legal guidelines primarily based on unproven claims of hurt to youngsters.<\/p>\n<p>Florida\u2019s regulation, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flsenate.gov\/Session\/Bill\/2024\/3\">HB 3<\/a>, is a part of a broader wave of state laws attempting to dam social media entry for anybody underneath 16. The justification is all the time the identical: defending youngsters from hurt. The proof is all the time equally skinny. And the constitutional issues are all the time obtrusive.<\/p>\n<p>However what makes this explicit listening to fascinating is how clearly it exposes three key issues with these legal guidelines: the shaky proof, the troubling implications for parental rights, and most significantly, the way in which they echo earlier ethical panics about all the things from comedian books to rap music.<\/p>\n<p>And why do these legal guidelines all the time deal with these underneath 16 particularly? What makes that the magic age to flip the swap? No one ever explains that. The most effective suggestion is that that is the age advisable in Jonathan Haidt\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2024\/10\/11\/jonathan-haidts-claims-on-kids-tech-crumble-under-scrutiny-from-top-expert-candice-odgers\/\">widely debunked book<\/a> about youngsters and social media. Besides, as I famous in my assessment of the ebook, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2024\/04\/22\/jonathan-haidts-book-the-anxious-generation-is-coddling-the-american-parent-giving-them-clear-simple-wrong-explanations-for-whats-ailing-teens\/\">Haidt makes basically zero effort<\/a> to defend why it\u2019s okay for 16 12 months olds to make use of social media, however not anybody youthful. He simply notes that he \u201cthinks\u201d it makes extra sense (which is a placing admission given how a lot Haidt and his supporters declare his ebook is supported by information and research).<\/p>\n<p>CCIA and NetChoice <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/69315216\/computer-communications-industry-association-v-uthmeier\/\">sued to stop the law<\/a> from going into impact, and whereas there hasn\u2019t been a ruling on a preliminary injunction but, I did get my fingers on among the transcript from the listening to on the finish of February.<\/p>\n<p>The transcript reads like a grasp class in dismantling ethical panic arguments. When Florida\u2019s legal professionals stood up in court docket to defend the regulation, they reached for what they clearly thought was their strongest argument: \u201cEffectively, Your Honor, it&#8217;s well-known on this nation that children are addicted to those platforms.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However Decide Mark Walker, chief choose of the Northern District of Florida, wasn\u2019t shopping for what Florida was promoting. His response reduce straight to the center of why these sorts of claims deserve skepticism, and a few of it was primarily based on his personal childhood expertise on the opposite facet of an ethical panic:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: Effectively, Your Honor, it&#8217;s well-known on this nation that children are addicted to those platforms. This can be a psychological well being \u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: It was well-known once I was rising up that<\/em> <strong><em>I used to be going to turn out to be a Satanist as a result of I performed Dungeons &amp; Dragons<\/em><\/strong><em>. Is that \u2014 I don\u2019t know what actually meaning. You&#8217;ll be able to say that there\u2019s research, Decide, and you&#8217;ll\u2019t ignore skilled experiences that say X.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The D&amp;D reference isn\u2019t simply an amusing comeback \u2014 it\u2019s a federal choose explaining via private expertise why courts shouldn\u2019t settle for \u201ceveryone is aware of\u201d arguments about hurt to youngsters. In any case, a lot of issues have been \u201cwell-known\u201d to hurt youngsters over time. It was \u201cwell-known\u201d that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2014\/06\/20\/that-time-when-people-thought-playing-chess-would-make-you-violent\/\">chess made kids violent<\/a>. Or that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2009\/06\/12\/some-quotes-of-note-politicians-damning-new-technologies-cultural-artifacts\/\">waltz would be fatal<\/a> to younger ladies, or that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2014\/10\/08\/moral-panics-1878-ny-times-warns-people-about-evils-thomas-edisons-aerophone\/\">the phone<\/a> would stop younger males from ever chatting with younger ladies once more. I might go on with extra examples, as a result of there are such a lot of.<\/p>\n<p>When Florida\u2019s lawyer tried to argue that social media was someway totally different \u2014 that this time the ethical panic was justified \u2014 Decide Walker was prepared with historic receipts:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: Children weren\u2019t studying comics \u2014 tens of millions and tens of millions of children weren\u2019t studying comics eight hours a day. Thousands and thousands and tens of millions of children weren\u2019t listening to rap music eight hours a day. There\u2019s one thing totally different happening right here, and there\u2019s a consensus \u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: The issue, Counsel, that\u2019s a very dangerous instance, the comics, as a result of there may be a whole exhibit in Glasgow the place they barred comics in all the nation as a result of anyone determined that comics have been turning their youth towards their mother and father and have been inflicting them to have interaction and worship the supernatural and stuff.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>So, I imply, I assume that was the purpose the plaintiffs have been making is from the start of time, we\u2019ve focused issues underneath some perception that it\u2019s harming our youth, however doesn\u2019t essentially make it so.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>However, go forward.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That trailing \u201chowever, go forward\u201d is savage. I believe I\u2019d moderately curl up in a ball and attempt to disappear in the course of a courtroom than \u201cgo forward\u201d after that.<\/p>\n<p>Florida additionally went with what they should have thought was their strongest argument: the authority of the U.S. Surgeon Normal. In any case, if the nation\u2019s prime physician says social media is addictive, who&#8217;s a mere federal choose to query it?<\/p>\n<p>However this attraction to authority ran straight into one other of Decide Walker\u2019s key factors: skilled <em>opinions<\/em>, even from excessive officers, want precise proof behind them.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: The U.S. Surgeon Normal acknowledged them as addictive. Specialists acknowledge them as addictive. The legislative workers evaluation on this case was fairly thorough and cited a whole lot of \u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: The Surgeon Normal additionally stated COVID was harmful, however I get it. It doesn\u2019t essentially say \u2014 the U.S. Surgeon Normal, simply because he says one thing doesn\u2019t make it so.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The choose\u2019s COVID instance is\u2026 not nice. COVID was (and stays) legitimately harmful, supported by overwhelming scientific proof. However his broader level about not blindly accepting authority claims stands. In any case, this is identical workplace that after warned concerning the risks of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2024\/06\/20\/when-the-surgeon-general-warned-about-pac-man\/\">Pac-Man<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Decide Walker does a bit more unusual COVID denialism in rejecting \u201cthe Surgeon Normal says it\u201d argument a bit later:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>However invoking the \u201cit\u2019s generally recognized\u201d \u2014 I imply, it was generally recognized that masks would stop, probably, the unfold of COVID, however apparently that was faux information. So, I imply, I don\u2019t perceive how the \u201cgenerally recognized\u201d helps you.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m kinda hoping he\u2019s utilizing this instance to mock the Florida authorities, given how <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/coronavirus-pandemic-health-tampa-ron-desantis-university-of-south-florida-a6b5dbae5a5e31b3fd3beef62ebee6e8\">mask-denialism is so common among the Florida government<\/a> nowadays, even because the precise proof has and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pnas.org\/doi\/10.1073\/pnas.2014564118\">continues to show<\/a> that masks sporting does, actually, restrict the unfold of COVID (not totally, however considerably).<\/p>\n<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what, although, it\u2019s good to see a choose who appears nicely conscious of how ethical panics work, and demanding precise proof, moderately than simply shopping for these sorts of appeals to authority.<\/p>\n<p>And, all of this issues legally. As Decide Walker notes, to cross the excessive bar of strict scrutiny, it&#8217;s a must to present extra than simply handwaving about youngsters and social media, even getting Florida\u2019s lawyer to agree {that a} \u201cloosey-goosey causal impact\u201d wouldn\u2019t cross strict scrutiny.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>THE COURT: And by the way in which, \u201cgenerally recognized\u201d definitely wouldn\u2019t \u2014 if you&#8217;re topic to strict scrutiny, that definitely wouldn\u2019t be sufficient; proper?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: Agreed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: And you&#8217;d even agree the type of loosey-goosey causal impact underneath current case regulation wouldn\u2019t be sufficient for strict scrutiny; proper?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: A direct causal hyperlink is required underneath Brown for strict scrutiny.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This trade issues as a result of it cuts to the center of why these social media legal guidelines maintain failing in court docket. It\u2019s not sufficient to say \u201ceverybody is aware of social media is dangerous for teenagers.\u201d It\u2019s not sufficient to quote just a few alarming research. Beneath strict scrutiny, you want actual proof of direct hurt and proof that your regulation truly addresses that hurt within the least restrictive manner potential.<\/p>\n<p>However even when Florida might someway meet the strict scrutiny normal (they&#8217;ll\u2019t), there\u2019s an much more elementary drawback with the regulation: it utterly undermines the state\u2019s supposed dedication to parental rights. Decide Walker\u2019s trade with Florida\u2019s lawyer on this level was significantly revealing:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>THE COURT: Effectively, we\u2019ve empowered mother and father to manage what books our youngsters learn at school. Why is it far-fetched to empower mother and father and suppose they know finest for his or her particular person youngsters about who they&#8217;re partaking with socially on social media platforms?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: Effectively, mother and father definitely have a task, however the hot button is these controls. And the controls have confirmed ineffective. So these platforms \u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: You take the management away. As a result of if I\u2019ve bought a 13-year-old youngster and I need him to \u2014 does my child get to enroll if I need him to have the ability to enroll and have an account in a social media platform on Fb?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: You&#8217;ll be able to register for an account and a child can use your account, and you&#8217;ll monitor them.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: I don\u2019t wish to monitor them. Identical to I need them to learn the ebook concerning the two penguins elevating an egg collectively. The 2 male penguins elevating an egg collectively. I don\u2019t wish to enroll on my account. I wish to have my very own Fb account. I need my child \u2014 you\u2019ve taken that alternative away from me; proper?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR. GOLEMBIEWSKI: I simply suppose it\u2019s an irrelevant concern as a result of their \u2014 I imply, the diploma of management that folks have is irrelevant. What\u2019s \u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>THE COURT: The purpose, Counsel \u2014 and I don\u2019t suppose it\u2019s significantly far-fetched \u2014 is the State of Florida picks and chooses when they need the mother and father to be making the choice. And when it fits their functions, they do; and when it doesn\u2019t, they don\u2019t.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>However I\u2019ve bought it. Honest sufficient.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That reference to \u201cthe ebook concerning the two penguins elevating an egg collectively\u201d isn\u2019t random. It\u2019s about And Tango Makes Three, a youngsters\u2019s ebook that\u2019s incessantly focused for bans (together with in Florida). The choose is highlighting an apparent contradiction: Florida claims mother and father ought to have absolute authority over what books their youngsters learn, however apparently can\u2019t be trusted to determine if their 15-year-old is mature sufficient for Instagram.<\/p>\n<p>The listening to was a few weeks in the past, and whereas there was <a href=\"https:\/\/health.wusf.usf.edu\/health-news-florida\/2025-03-02\/judge-hard-row-hoe-florida-justify-social-media-ban-young-teens\">some light reporting<\/a> on it, the total transcript tells a extra vital story. It exhibits how these social media ethical panics are main to precisely what ethical panics all the time result in: hasty, poorly thought-out legal guidelines that trample particular person rights within the title of defending youngsters.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re seeing this sample play out throughout the nation. From Utah to California to Arkansas to New York to Florida, legislators are speeding to \u201cdo one thing\u201d about social media, backed by nothing greater than parental anxiousness and cherry-picked research. However as Decide Walker\u2019s systematic dismantling of Florida\u2019s arguments exhibits, these legal guidelines can\u2019t survive precise constitutional scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p>The irony is that in attempting to guard youngsters from the supposed risks of social media, these legal guidelines are educating them a distinct lesson totally: that proof doesn\u2019t matter, that constitutional rights are negotiable, and that the answer to each perceived drawback is a authorities ban. That\u2019s in all probability not the civics lesson we wish to be giving the subsequent era.<\/p>\n<p>So kudos to Decide Walker for giving a significantly better civics lesson in response to this explicit ethical panic.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/embed.documentcloud.org\/documents\/25558085-transcript-ccia-v-uthmeier-nd-fla-pi-hearing-28-feb-2025\/?embed=1\" width=\"100%\" height=\"600px\" style=\"border: 1px solid #d8dee2;border-radius: 0.5rem\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"filed\">\n<p>\tFiled Beneath: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/age-verification\/\" rel=\"tag\">age verification<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/dungeons-dragons\/\" rel=\"tag\">dungeons &amp; dragons<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/evidence\/\" rel=\"tag\">evidence<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/florida\/\" rel=\"tag\">florida<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/hb-3\/\" rel=\"tag\">hb 3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/mark-walker\/\" rel=\"tag\">mark walker<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/moral-panic\/\" rel=\"tag\">moral panic<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/protect-the-children\/\" rel=\"tag\">protect the children<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/social-media\/\" rel=\"tag\">social media<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/tag\/surgeon-general\/\" rel=\"tag\">surgeon general<\/a><br \/>\n\t<br \/>Firms: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/company\/ccia\/\" rel=\"category tag\">ccia<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/company\/netchoice\/\" rel=\"category tag\">netchoice<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<iframe data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets?id=U2FsdGVkX18x7XQvttUTrv1oEqmGNGTgvvCUiUoJ\/AP4z\/UyMz8lXGOLpu15jIMxBbTR0gmD5uBoFvhC4KWeALQRp3h\/X\/AwcVD0K8Wj9H\/ZzYKzcCNHosB9oS4SCJJFWiN85P9ICAc4OgCoE\/wHKIY7CDkf2\/DQ1vqGvk4smVe5cRDEmrLPCWi4FC8p40VUhSmWQ5udCm0zoJtorgWv3vbDQw0kKYkwn39ozAnQXDe+YvWMxkLFWA+O3TFwkJvdkIK+\/AUSnRssPKt5WHY0FhNOxnSPcLslEL4G4\/RfP95ve99U+kRnDy3X+KtzdQLY+u935ghON\/o3UE4IMv9oN6JX9RnxzL\/LRcOgnHigxStSGPKsZYtnz8RWNVT\/rOLAibqiWJadC5MYHRbekF3eg6FOGrQGkXYbsn0+a5aovnlLCbLwIqY9fcS17UX8J235iQ6cdmHNbrPeS84CMm34RA==&affiliate_id=1052423&strip_google_tagmanager=true\" loading=\"lazy\" data-with-title=\"true\" class=\"fiverr_nga_frame\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-mode=\"random_gigs\" onload=\" var frame = this; var script = document.createElement('script'); script.addEventListener('load', function() { window.FW_SDK.register(frame); }); script.setAttribute('src', 'https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets\/sdk'); document.body.appendChild(script); \" ><\/iframe>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2025\/03\/11\/judge-uses-dds-failure-to-make-him-worship-satan-to-school-florida-on-social-media-moral-panics\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>from the was-he-the-dungeon-master? dept When Florida\u2019s legal professionals tried to defend the state\u2019s social media age restriction regulation by claiming it\u2019s \u201cwell-known\u201d that platforms hurt&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":55749,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-68273","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tech-universe"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Judge Uses D&amp;D\u2019s Failure To Make Him Worship Satan To School Florida On Social Media Moral Panics - mailinvest.blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Technology is forever changing, and there are always new pieces of technology to replace obsolete ones. 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