{"id":6505,"date":"2022-01-25T19:08:07","date_gmt":"2022-01-25T19:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/01\/25\/yet-another-really-dumb-lawsuit-filed-against-meta-because-some-people-who-did-a-bad-thing-may-have-met-on-facebook\/"},"modified":"2022-01-25T19:08:07","modified_gmt":"2022-01-25T19:08:07","slug":"yet-another-really-dumb-lawsuit-filed-against-meta-because-some-people-who-did-a-bad-thing-may-have-met-on-facebook","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/01\/25\/yet-another-really-dumb-lawsuit-filed-against-meta-because-some-people-who-did-a-bad-thing-may-have-met-on-facebook\/","title":{"rendered":"Yet Another Really Dumb Lawsuit Filed Against Meta Because Some People Who Did A Bad Thing May Have Met On Facebook"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<h3>from the <i>this-is-not-a-good-lawsuit<\/i> dept<\/h3>\n<p>\nEveryone wants to blame internet companies for everything. A couple weeks back, a woman <a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/21179321-underwood-v-meta-complaint.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sued Meta over the death of her brother<\/a>, claiming Facebook was to blame. This is the latest in a ridiculously long line of failed lawsuits that look to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20160615\/07235434714\/twitter-facebook-google-sued-material-support-terrorism-over-paris-attacks.shtml\">hold Facebook liable<\/a> for the deaths of people, just because either the killers or people connected to them somehow communicated on social media. It&#8217;s like suing AT&amp;T because two people plotting a crime spoke on the phone. These are nonsense lawsuits and they are nuisance lawsuits. This one is no different.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe underlying story here is tragic: two men, who were a part of the &#8220;boogaloo bois&#8221; (one of the many extremist groups who believe that a new civil war is coming, and that they need to help it along), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mercurynews.com\/2020\/06\/29\/federal-grand-jury-returns-indictment-against-ca-men-accused-of-murdering-federal-officer-after-meeting-on-boogaloo-facebook-group\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">killed a Federal Protective Services officer<\/a>, Dave Patrick Underwood. They literally believed that this was part of the process to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wgbh\/frontline\/article\/steven-carrillo-boogaloo-bois-active-duty-airman-incite-civil-war\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">start this civil war<\/a>. Its quite understandable while Underwood&#8217;s family would be furious about this, and the two murderers are going to be in prison for a long, long time.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBut trying to demand money from Facebook?\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe entire complaint argues that because the two murderers talked on Facebook, Facebook is somehow responsible. It tries to get around Section 230 by arguing that the murderers found each other due to Facebook&#8217;s algorithms, and somehow that gets around Section 230 (it doesn&#8217;t).\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><\/p>\n<p>\nFacebook, as originally conceived, may have functioned like an enormous virtual<br \/>\nbulletin board, where content was published by authors. But Facebook has evolved over time<br \/>\nwith the addition of numerous features and products designed by Meta to engage users. The<br \/>\nearliest of these \u2013 the search function and the \u201clike\u201d button \u2013 were user-controlled features. In<br \/>\nmore recent years, however, Meta has taken an active role in shaping the user-experience on the<br \/>\nplatform with more complex features and products that are not triggered by user requests. The<br \/>\nmost visible of these are curated recommendations, which are pushed to each user in a steady<br \/>\nstream as the user navigates the website and in notifications sent to the user\u2019s smartphone and<br \/>\nemail addresses when the user is off-platform. These proprietary Facebook products include<br \/>\nNews Feed (a newsfeed of stories and posts published on the platform, some of which are posted<br \/>\nby your Facebook friends or members of groups you have joined, and others that are suggested<br \/>\nfor you by Facebook), People You May Know (introductions to persons with common<br \/>\nconnections or background), and Suggested for You, Groups You Should Join, and Discover<br \/>\n(recommendations for Facebook groups to join).\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThese curated and bundled recommendations are developed through<br \/>\nsophisticated algorithms. As distinguished from the earliest search functions that were used to<br \/>\nnavigate websites during the Internet\u2019s infancy, Meta\u2019s algorithms are not based exclusively on<br \/>\nuser requests or even user inputs. Meta\u2019s algorithms combine the user\u2019s profile (e.g., the<br \/>\ninformation posted by the user on the platform) and the user\u2019s dossier (the data collected and<br \/>\nsynthesized by Meta to which Meta assigns categorical designations), make assumptions about<br \/>\nthat user\u2019s interests and preferences, make predictions about what else might appeal to the user,<br \/>\nand then make very specific recommendations of posts and pages to view and groups to visit and<br \/>\njoin based on rankings that will optimize Meta\u2019s key performance indicators.\n<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThis is a variation on the &#8220;algorithmic recommendations don&#8217;t deserve 230 protections&#8221; argument. There are efforts in Congress to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20201026\/16090345592\/another-section-230-reform-bill-dangerous-algorithms-bill-threatens-speech.shtml\">make that explicit<\/a>, but it&#8217;s nonsensical &#8212; in large part because recommendations <b>are protected by the 1st Amendment<\/b>. So even if you got past the Section 230 issue, you&#8217;re still killed by the 1st Amendment.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd the lawsuit here more or less admits that by saying that these are all opinions:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><\/p>\n<p>\nMeta\u2019s algorithms are carefully protected intellectual property. While they are<br \/>\noften characterized as automated and impersonal, they are, in actuality, dynamic and subject to<br \/>\nfrequent refinement. They also reflect the inferences, judgments, priorities, and decision-making<br \/>\nof human programmers, managers, and executives at Meta.\n<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nSpecifically, they&#8217;re arguing &#8220;negligent design&#8221; &#8212; an argument that has been tried repeatedly in 230 cases and fails.\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><\/p>\n<p>\nIn 2017, Meta changed its mission to giving \u201cpeople the power to build<br \/>\ncommunity and bring the world closer together.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\nTo accomplish this new mission, Meta redesigned its social media platform and<br \/>\nits recommendation algorithms to promote and emphasize user engagement in hobby clubs, civil<br \/>\nsociety organizations, and other community groups.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nMeta built a superstructure to support groups, built algorithms to recruit members<br \/>\nfor those groups, and built algorithms that created an insular world view for members of those<br \/>\ngroups.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIn an interview with CNN, CEO Zuckerberg recognized the real world<br \/>\nimplications of achieving its goal to expand group membership on its platform: \u201cOnce people are<br \/>\ncoming together in these smaller groups, that actually grows and it ends up with much bigger<br \/>\nchanges in the world.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\nMeta knew or should have known that these changes in the world could very well<br \/>\nbe negative\u2014even dangerous and harmful to the public\u2014as demonstrated by its own internal<br \/>\nresearch.\n<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nI mean, this claim alone actually does a good job of demonstrating <b>why Section 230 is so important<\/b> in two different ways. First, the whole reason that Facebook changed its efforts towards focusing on community <b>was in response to people freaking out about the 2016 election and misinformation<\/b>. Facebook took those concerns and tried to respond to them by saying it was changing its emphasis away from news &#8212; in the hopes that this would lessen things like the impact on elections &#8212; and towards community. And yet here, they&#8217;re being <em>blamed<\/em> for that attempt (weak as it may have been) to improve their service.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBasically, this shows how <b>any decision<\/b> on how to run your platform will be second guessed, and (if you&#8217;re big enough) someone will sue you over it. The very nature of Section 230 is that it allows for these kinds of changes and experimentation to figure out what&#8217;s best, and recognizes that it&#8217;s a constant need for adjusting and adapting.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe second reason why this highlights the importance of Section 230 is that 230 is useful in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20190411\/09024441979\/new-paper-why-section-230-is-better-than-first-amendment.shtml\">getting these cases kicked out of court quickly<\/a>, as they should be. Because without Section 230, this case is still a complete loser.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe entire basis of the lawsuit is that because these men met on Facebook, and then later decided to kill someone, Facebook is somehow to blame for the murder. But under that theory, if two people meet at a bowling alley, or a bar, or a restaurant, and later commit a crime, you could hold those meeting places liable? That&#8217;s ridiculous and clearly cannot fly. Section 230 is helpful in getting such obviously bogus lawsuits kicked out early. Without 230, Facebook still wins this case, but it&#8217;s just a lot more expensive.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThis is a nonsense lawsuit and the lawyers who filed it should be embarrassed. 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