{"id":4062,"date":"2022-01-18T23:37:06","date_gmt":"2022-01-18T23:37:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/01\/18\/court-says-that-travel-company-cant-tell-others-how-much-southwest-flights-cost\/"},"modified":"2022-01-18T23:37:06","modified_gmt":"2022-01-18T23:37:06","slug":"court-says-that-travel-company-cant-tell-others-how-much-southwest-flights-cost","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/01\/18\/court-says-that-travel-company-cant-tell-others-how-much-southwest-flights-cost\/","title":{"rendered":"Court Says That Travel Company Can&#8217;t Tell Others How Much Southwest Flights Cost"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\" loading=\"lazy\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<h3>from the <i>c&#8217;mon<\/i> dept<\/h3>\n<p>\nA few months back, we wrote about Southwest Airlines&#8217; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/articles\/20210915\/22172247571\/southwests-bizarrely-antagonistic-lawsuit-to-stop-consumers-finding-better-deals.shtml\">ridiculously antagonistic legal strategy<\/a> against aggregators that would scrape information on flights and prices from Southwest.com and help people find flights and prices. The case we covered was the one against Skiplagged, but it was related to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/29106991\/southwest-airlines-co-v-kiwicom-inc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a separate case against Kiwi.com<\/a>. Skiplagged had argued that it didn&#8217;t violate Southwest&#8217;s terms of service since it wasn&#8217;t scraping info from Southwest&#8230; but rather had scraped it from a different site, Kiwi.com, which in turn had scraped it from Southwest.com.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nJust the fact that we&#8217;re arguing over whether or not it&#8217;s legal to scrape data <em>from publicly available websites<\/em> should alert you to the fact that these lawsuits are nonsense. Factual data &#8212; such as flight routes and prices &#8212; are not protected by any intellectual property and if you put them out there, people can (and should!) copy them and spread them elsewhere. But, unfortunately, the court ruled against Kiwi.com last fall, granting Southwest an injunction saying that Kiwi can&#8217;t scrape its site for data any more. Realizing it was in trouble, it appears that Kiwi caved in <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bloomberglaw.com\/tech-and-telecom-law\/southwest-settles-trademark-suit-against-online-booking-site\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">and settled the lawsuit<\/a> agreeing to no longer collect data on Southwest flights.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nGiven that, the court has now <a href=\"https:\/\/s3.documentcloud.org\/documents\/21172100\/govuscourtstxnd3431291260.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">made the preliminary injunction a permanent injunction<\/a> barring Kiwi and any of its employees from ever scraping data off of Southwest&#8217;s site. The court takes for granted that Southwest can just say in their terms of service that you can&#8217;t copy data from their website and that&#8217;s a valid contract. That seems dangerously empowering for terms of service. Can I add to Techdirt&#8217;s terms of service that by reading this site you agree to place any copyright-covered works you create into the public domain?\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><\/p>\n<p>\nSouthwest\u2019s Terms &amp; Conditions are a valid and enforceable contract, and Kiwi.com<br \/>\naccepted those Terms &amp; Conditions when it used the Southwest Website with knowledge of the<br \/>\nTerms &amp; Conditions;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nKiwi.com breached the Terms &amp; Conditions when it, among other things, harvested<br \/>\nand scraped data from the Southwest Website, published Southwest\u2019s flight and fare schedules on<br \/>\nKiwi.com, used the Southwest Website for Kiwi.com\u2019s own commercial purposes, and brokered<br \/>\nand sold Southwest flights without permission;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nKiwi.com\u2019s violations of the Terms &amp; Conditions have caused Southwest to suffer<br \/>\nirreparable harm, including lost traffic on its website, customer service burdens, operational<br \/>\ndisruptions, and reputational damage; and\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAfter considering the balance of harms, the threatened injury to Southwest if the<br \/>\ninjunction was denied outweighed the harm to Kiwi.com because, among other things, Kiwi.com\u2019s<br \/>\nunauthorized sales of Southwest flights poses a significant disruption to its customer operations,<br \/>\nand the public interest would be served if an injunction is granted because there is an expectation<br \/>\nthat parties to contracts will honor their contractual obligations.\n<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThose last two paragraphs also seem like complete nonsense. If people find it easier to use a third party service than your own site, well, then that should mean you should work to improve your own site, not get to sue them in court. Lots of things lead to &#8220;lost traffic&#8221; on a website, including better service from a competitor. But we don&#8217;t say that violates the law.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnyway, because of this no one associated with Kiwi.com can ever &#8220;extract&#8221; any information from Southwest&#8217;s website or even post data about Southwest flights on its website and I honestly don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s possibly legal. Data is data. You shouldn&#8217;t be able to bar a company from posting data.\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><\/p>\n<p>\nIT IS HEREBY ORDERED that Kiwi.com, Inc. and Kiwi.com s.r.o., as well as their<br \/>\nofficers, agents, servants, employees, and attorneys and all other persons acting who are in active<br \/>\nconcert or participation with them, are permanently prohibited, restrained, and enjoined<br \/>\npermanently from: (1) harvesting, extracting, or scraping information from the Southwest website,<br \/>\nwww.southwest.com, or its proprietary servers, including Southwest\u2019s flight and fare information;<br \/>\n(2) publishing Southwest flight or fare information on the kiwi.com website, through its mobile<br \/>\napplications or elsewhere; (3) otherwise accessing and using Southwest\u2019s website and data for any<br \/>\ncommercial purpose; (4) selling Southwest flights; and (5) committing any other acts in violation<br \/>\nof Southwest\u2019s Terms &amp; Conditions\n<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nWhat an unfortunate state of an events &#8212; but also a very clear reminder that Southwest is anti-consumer in its practices.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/embed.documentcloud.org\/documents\/21172100-govuscourtstxnd3431291260\/?embed=1&amp;responsive=0&amp;sidebar=0&amp;title=1\" title=\"gov.uscourts.txnd.343129.126.0 (Hosted by DocumentCloud)\" width=\"560\" height=\"705\" style=\"border: 1px solid #aaa;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-forms allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"post_end\">\n<div id=\"post_end_plea_promo\" name=\"post_end_plea\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"promo_close\" src=\"https:\/\/ii.techdirt.com\/s\/t\/i\/topclose.png\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Hide this\" title=\"Hide This\" \/><\/p>\n<div style=\"color:#444;font-family:'Georgia','Times',serif;font-size:110%;font-style:italic;line-height:1.5;padding:20px;\">\n<p>Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. 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