{"id":21716,"date":"2022-12-07T18:22:19","date_gmt":"2022-12-07T18:22:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/07\/longstanding-bug-in-linux-kernel-floppy-handling-fixed-the-register\/"},"modified":"2022-12-07T18:22:19","modified_gmt":"2022-12-07T18:22:19","slug":"longstanding-bug-in-linux-kernel-floppy-handling-fixed-the-register","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/07\/longstanding-bug-in-linux-kernel-floppy-handling-fixed-the-register\/","title":{"rendered":"Longstanding bug in Linux kernel floppy handling fixed \u2022 The Register"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\" loading=\"lazy\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"body\">\n<p>Linux kernel 6.2 should contain fixes for some problems handling floppy disks, a move which shows that someone somewhere is still using them.<\/p>\n<p>This isn&#8217;t the only such fix in recent years. As a series of articles on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.phoronix.com\/news\/Linux-6.2-Floppy\" rel=\"nofollow\">Phoronix<\/a> details, there has been a slow but steady flow of fixes for the kernel&#8217;s handling of floppy drives since at least kernel 5.17, as <em>The Reg<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/03\/20\/linux_5_17\/\">mentioned when it came out<\/a>. Which implies that there are still people actively using floppy diskettes on machines with fairly current Linux kernels on them. If you are one of them, do let us know.<\/p>\n<p>Back in July 2016, SUSE kernel developer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linux.com\/news\/30-linux-kernel-developers-30-weeks-jiri-kosina\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ji\u0159i Kosina<\/a> submitted a <a href=\"https:\/\/git.kernel.org\/pub\/scm\/linux\/kernel\/git\/torvalds\/linux.git\/commit\/?id=09954bad4\" rel=\"nofollow\">patch<\/a>. The problem arose because this change broke something else and later got <a href=\"https:\/\/lore.kernel.org\/lkml\/de10cb47-34d1-5a88-7751-225ca380f735@compro.net\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">reverted<\/a>, and so the problem hung around.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n        <noscript><br \/>\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n            <\/a><br \/>\n        <\/noscript>\n    <\/div>\n<p>In July last year, he sent in a new <a href=\"https:\/\/lore.kernel.org\/lkml\/de10cb47-34d1-5a88-7751-225ca380f735@compro.net\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">patch<\/a> that fixed it again for the 5.12 kernel, and was later back-ported to 5.10, an LTS version, and <a href=\"https:\/\/lore.kernel.org\/lkml\/388418f4-2b9a-6fed-836c-a004369dc7c0@linux.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">again<\/a> into kernel 5.15 \u2013 another an LTS version, and the one you&#8217;re running today if you&#8217;re on the current Ubuntu LTS release, or something built from it such as Linux Mint 21.<\/p>\n<p>Yet another <a href=\"https:\/\/lore.kernel.org\/lkml\/045df549-6805-0a02-a634-81aca7d98db5@linux.com\/T\/#u\" rel=\"nofollow\">fix<\/a> was new for kernel 5.17, a year ago: this one fixed a situation where the computer is trying to read from a damaged floppy and the user removes the diskette. That worked, but it exposed a new problem, and the somewhat brute-force response to this for kernel 5.18 was just to <a href=\"https:\/\/git.kernel.org\/pub\/scm\/linux\/kernel\/git\/torvalds\/linux.git\/commit\/?id=233087ca063686964a53c829d547c7571e3f67bf\" rel=\"nofollow\">disable<\/a> raw access to the floppy disk controller.<\/p>\n<p>Normally you don&#8217;t need that to read and write to diskettes: it&#8217;s only for things like handling floppies with formats other than the basic PC- and Mac- 1.4MB &#8220;high-density&#8221; format, or handling copy-protected disks, and so on. This sort of stuff won&#8217;t work if you use a USB floppy drive, anyway: their embedded controllers only understand standard formats, and so can&#8217;t handle classic Mac or Amiga double-density disks from the 1980s.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<p>Now, in December 2022, a new <a href=\"https:\/\/lore.kernel.org\/lkml\/805d7405-2e2f-ddda-8e17-97ac1934738c@linux.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">patch<\/a> for the forthcoming kernel 6.2 fixes a memory leak that dates back to 5.11 or before.<\/p>\n<p>Floppy diskettes seem to be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/12\/05\/new_atari_display_driver\/\">like the Motorola 680&#215;0 CPU architecture<\/a>: a 1970s technology that just won&#8217;t die. The odd thing is that they&#8217;ve survived so long despite not evolving.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y5DZ2ws1ILMV-xIhn1UljgAAAAY&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<p>The &#8220;high density&#8221; 1.4MB 3\u00bd&#8221; disk format was defined by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2017\/04\/04\/30_years_ago_ibms_final_battle_with_reality\/\">the IBM PS\/2 range in 1987<\/a>. By 1990, this evolved into &#8220;extra-high density&#8221;: 2.8MB floppies, used by IBM in the PS\/2 Model 57, and more visibly, in the NeXTcube and NeXTstation, the 68040-based successors to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2013\/04\/09\/feature_ten_sexy_computers_roundup\/?page=3\">the original NeXT Computer<\/a>\u2026 but 2.8MB disks never took off on generic PCs. Through the 1990s, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2010\/04\/26\/sony_stops_selling_floppies\/\">the floppy disk gradually evolved<\/a>, with 21MB &#8220;floptical&#8221; disks, then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/1998\/11\/13\/samsung_readies_fast_floppy_replacement\/\">128MB SuperDisks<\/a>, then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/1999\/04\/28\/sony_preps_hifd_for_playstation\/\">Sony&#8217;s 200MB HiFD<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>None of these ever went mainstream: instead, the PC industry clung on to &#8220;DSHD&#8221; floppies \u2013 two sides, 80 tracks, 18 sectors per track \u2013 and it seems in some places that it still does. Perhaps it&#8217;s a good thing for all of us. If later floppy disk tech <em>had<\/em> caught on, maybe they would have resisted the rise of writable CD-Rs, then rewritables, then DVD-R and DVD+R, and maybe we&#8217;d still have been using them when USB2 thumb drives finally came along. \u00ae<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<iframe data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets?id=U2FsdGVkX18x7XQvttUTrv1oEqmGNGTgvvCUiUoJ\/AP4z\/UyMz8lXGOLpu15jIMxBbTR0gmD5uBoFvhC4KWeALQRp3h\/X\/AwcVD0K8Wj9H\/ZzYKzcCNHosB9oS4SCJJFWiN85P9ICAc4OgCoE\/wHKIY7CDkf2\/DQ1vqGvk4smVe5cRDEmrLPCWi4FC8p40VUhSmWQ5udCm0zoJtorgWv3vbDQw0kKYkwn39ozAnQXDe+YvWMxkLFWA+O3TFwkJvdkIK+\/AUSnRssPKt5WHY0FhNOxnSPcLslEL4G4\/RfP95ve99U+kRnDy3X+KtzdQLY+u935ghON\/o3UE4IMv9oN6JX9RnxzL\/LRcOgnHigxStSGPKsZYtnz8RWNVT\/rOLAibqiWJadC5MYHRbekF3eg6FOGrQGkXYbsn0+a5aovnlLCbLwIqY9fcS17UX8J235iQ6cdmHNbrPeS84CMm34RA==&affiliate_id=1052423&strip_google_tagmanager=true\" loading=\"lazy\" data-with-title=\"true\" class=\"fiverr_nga_frame\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-mode=\"random_gigs\" onload=\" var frame = this; var script = document.createElement('script'); script.addEventListener('load', function() { window.FW_SDK.register(frame); }); script.setAttribute('src', 'https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets\/sdk'); document.body.appendChild(script); \" ><\/iframe>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.com\/feed\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/12\/07\/longstanding_bug_in_linux_kernel\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Linux kernel 6.2 should contain fixes for some problems handling floppy disks, a move which shows that someone somewhere is still using them. 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