{"id":21303,"date":"2022-12-06T13:04:53","date_gmt":"2022-12-06T13:04:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/06\/info-drips-out-about-various-vendors-arm-powered-kit-the-register\/"},"modified":"2022-12-06T13:04:53","modified_gmt":"2022-12-06T13:04:53","slug":"info-drips-out-about-various-vendors-arm-powered-kit-the-register","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/06\/info-drips-out-about-various-vendors-arm-powered-kit-the-register\/","title":{"rendered":"Info drips out about various vendors&#8217; Arm-powered kit \u2022 The Register"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\" loading=\"lazy\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"body\">\n<p>Arm-powered laptops and desktops are appearing on the market, but external appearances are deceptive. These are very different from familiar x86-based PCs, as the accounts of those experimenting with them reveal.<\/p>\n<p>Compared to x86 machines, which have the widest range of interchangeable, modular hardware in the history of computing, devices such as phones and tablets are almost polar opposites. A fondleslab is a relatively sealed unit, with a known combination of main processor, graphics processor, various networking interfaces and so on, designed and built to run a single OS that is customized for that hardware. If you&#8217;re lucky, several versions of that single OS.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to the inexpensive highly integrated Arm device you are probably holding in mid air, the problems start with booting: there&#8217;s usually no standardized firmware able to load multiple unknown OSes in the typical ad hoc PC way. There&#8217;s no need if you&#8217;re building it to run just one specific payload, meaning that, from the vendor&#8217;s point of view, it&#8217;s cheaper to do without.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n        <noscript><br \/>\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n            <\/a><br \/>\n        <\/noscript>\n    <\/div>\n<p>Trying to get a general-purpose OS to load up on this and drive its hardware is not a trivial task, which is why <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/03\/03\/armbian_project_releases_version_2202\/\">the Armbian project exists<\/a>. For example, while <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/04\/22\/openbsd_71_released_including_apple\/\">OpenBSD 7.1 boasted support for the Apple M1<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/10\/21\/openbsd_72_released\/\">version 7.2 added the M2<\/a>, this shows that definitions of &#8220;support&#8221; vary quite widely. OpenBSD <a href=\"https:\/\/marc.info\/?l=openbsd-cvs&amp;m=140511572108715&amp;w=2\" rel=\"nofollow\">dropped<\/a> support for Bluetooth completely in 2014, and for the typical uses of the OS, a flat unaccelerated framebuffer is good enough.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<div class=\"adun_eagle_desktop_story_wrapper\">\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xxlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\">\n                <noscript><br \/>\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                    <\/a><br \/>\n                <\/noscript>\n            <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Various posts online are revealing some of how Apple&#8217;s M1 kit works, the performance gap between M1 and M2, and how some rivals&#8217; kit compares.<\/p>\n<p>Berlin-based developer Christian Adam has published an exhaustive <a href=\"https:\/\/cristianadam.eu\/20221126\/windows-arm64-samsung-galaxy-book-go-5g\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a> examining the issues around running Windows 11 on a 64-bit Arm machine, the Samsung Galaxy Book Go 5G.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/personaltech&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4899Qs1ILMV-xIhn1VZ2QAAAAs&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<p>In the end, Adam bought three different laptops, plus a commercial driver manager and various other bits of hardware, and paid for someone to replace the LCD screen of one of them, then did another screen replacement on a second laptop himself. He managed to download the Windows installation image from a Microsoft Surface Pro X \u2013 running Arm hardware means no ready-to-run ISO images.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, his verdict was:<\/p>\n<p>As for the last machine&#8217;s performance:<\/p>\n<p>And in order to get one fully working machine to use as his main computer, as he put it:<\/p>\n<p>We suspect that not many people would be prepared to go to such lengths, but it does explain the levels of interest in Apple&#8217;s Arm-instruction-set machines. The M1 and M2 family of in-house designed M1 SoCs set new performance standards for personal computers \u2013 so long as you&#8217;re happy to run Apple&#8217;s own macOS, of course. <em>The Reg<\/em> has covered <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/03\/22\/asahi_hands_on\/\">the user experience of Asahi Linux<\/a>, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/05\/10\/apple_m1_mesa\/\">the difficulty of reverse engineering its GPU<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Asahi continues to make progress and improve its device drivers. Most recently, project lead Hector &#8220;Marcan&#8221; Martin <a href=\"https:\/\/asahilinux.org\/2022\/11\/november-2022-report\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">announced<\/a> support for USB 3.0 devices, and better power management, but not yet for MacBooks&#8217; onboard speakers:<\/p>\n<p>Graphics driver developer <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/asahilina\" rel=\"nofollow\">&#8220;Asahi Lina&#8221;<\/a> also described her adventures reverse-engineering GPU drivers in a lengthy <a href=\"https:\/\/asahilinux.org\/2022\/11\/tales-of-the-m1-gpu\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">post<\/a>, which contains a lot of exclamation marks and more emojis than we&#8217;re used to seeing in such technical matters, but is nonetheless fascinating. The early stages used a kernel driver which, although it sounds implausible, was partially written in Python. A more complete driver is being implemented in Rust, which she praises highly \u2013 although not without some <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LinaAsahi\/status\/1570119306461204481\" rel=\"nofollow\">reservations<\/a>. We&#8217;ve looked at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/09\/16\/rust_in_the_linux_kernel\/\">the difficulties of incorporating Rust into the kernel<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/10\/05\/rust_kernel_pull_request_pulled\/\">modest scope of the initial support in the forthcoming kernel 6.1<\/a>. As Lina put it:<\/p>\n<p>We suspect that this could mean more complete support in the mainline kernel may not appear until version 6.2 or even later.<\/p>\n<p>While the performance gap between Apple&#8217;s M1 silicon and competing products such as the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 2 that Christian Land tested remains substantial, an interesting Geekbench benchmark <a href=\"https:\/\/browser.geekbench.com\/v5\/cpu\/18972971\" rel=\"nofollow\">score<\/a> was noted on Twitter by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VNchocoTaco\/status\/1597882566258098176\" rel=\"nofollow\">ShrimpApplePro<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This appears to show the performance of one of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/04\/16\/apple_m2_chips\/\">the forthcoming M2 Max models<\/a>. It&#8217;s a relatively modest step up from the released M2 hardware\u2026 but then again, some of the main designers of the M1 already left Apple, including <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2019\/12\/09\/apple_nuvia_ceo_suit\/\">Gerard Williams to Nuvia<\/a> (later <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2021\/03\/16\/qualcomm_closes_nuvia_announces_chipset\/\">acquired by Qualcomm<\/a>), and subsequently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/01\/06\/apple_wilcox_intel\/\">Jeff Wilcox to Intel<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/01\/13\/microsoft_apple_chip_expert\/\">Mike Filippo to Microsoft<\/a>. It is possible that Apple may yet face some <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/05\/02\/qualcomm_laptops_nuvia\/\">stiff new competition<\/a>. \u00ae<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><iframe data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets?id=U2FsdGVkX18x7XQvttUTrv1oEqmGNGTgvvCUiUoJ\/AP4z\/UyMz8lXGOLpu15jIMxBbTR0gmD5uBoFvhC4KWeALQRp3h\/X\/AwcVD0K8Wj9H\/ZzYKzcCNHosB9oS4SCJJFWiN85P9ICAc4OgCoE\/wHKIY7CDkf2\/DQ1vqGvk4smVe5cRDEmrLPCWi4FC8p40VUhSmWQ5udCm0zoJtorgWv3vbDQw0kKYkwn39ozAnQXDe+YvWMxkLFWA+O3TFwkJvdkIK+\/AUSnRssPKt5WHY0FhNOxnSPcLslEL4G4\/RfP95ve99U+kRnDy3X+KtzdQLY+u935ghON\/o3UE4IMv9oN6JX9RnxzL\/LRcOgnHigxStSGPKsZYtnz8RWNVT\/rOLAibqiWJadC5MYHRbekF3eg6FOGrQGkXYbsn0+a5aovnlLCbLwIqY9fcS17UX8J235iQ6cdmHNbrPeS84CMm34RA==&affiliate_id=1052423&strip_google_tagmanager=true\" loading=\"lazy\" data-with-title=\"true\" class=\"fiverr_nga_frame\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-mode=\"random_gigs\" onload=\" var frame = this; var script = document.createElement('script'); script.addEventListener('load', function() { window.FW_SDK.register(frame); }); script.setAttribute('src', 'https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets\/sdk'); document.body.appendChild(script); \" ><\/iframe>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.com\/feed\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/12\/06\/arm64_laptops\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arm-powered laptops and desktops are appearing on the market, but external appearances are deceptive. 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