{"id":20084,"date":"2022-12-01T01:39:33","date_gmt":"2022-12-01T01:39:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/01\/alibaba-tencent-enlisted-to-help-china-build-risc-v-chips-the-register\/"},"modified":"2022-12-01T01:39:33","modified_gmt":"2022-12-01T01:39:33","slug":"alibaba-tencent-enlisted-to-help-china-build-risc-v-chips-the-register","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2022\/12\/01\/alibaba-tencent-enlisted-to-help-china-build-risc-v-chips-the-register\/","title":{"rendered":"Alibaba, Tencent enlisted to help China build RISC-V chips \u2022 The Register"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"body\">\n<p>China is reportedly leaning on domestic tech giants Alibaba and Tencent to design RISC-V chips as part of the country&#8217;s efforts to insulate itself from the effects of the United States&#8217; growing silicon sanctions.<\/p>\n<p>This is according to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/1d017204-96e8-4d0a-a737-83cf091d41da?shareType=nongift\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wednesday report<\/a> by The Financial Times, which said China has &#8220;enlisted&#8221; the two companies. That word has quite the insinuation, given the country&#8217;s &#8220;military-civil fusion&#8221; doctrine, where private firms must share their technologies, and any <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/11\/07\/china_stockpiles_vulnerabilities_microsoft_asserts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">software vulnerabilities<\/a>, with China&#8217;s military.<\/p>\n<p>The report said Alibaba and Tencent are part of a new consortium of companies and research institutes set up by the Chinese government that aims to create new intellection property for chips based on the open-source RISC-V instruction set architecture (ISA). This means China is looking to cook up core designs and other silicon building blocks that will serve as the basis for future chips.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n        <noscript><br \/>\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n            <\/a><br \/>\n        <\/noscript>\n    <\/div>\n<p>China views RISC-V as a safer alternative to the proprietary Arm ISA over fears that the latter will be subject to future US sanctions. After all, Arm, is British but has a big American presence, and its owner, SoftBank, hopes to list Arm on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/06\/24\/arm_nasdaq\/\">US stock exchange<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/11\/21\/arm_ipo_delayed\/\">next year<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<div class=\"adun_eagle_desktop_story_wrapper\">\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xxlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\">\n                <noscript><br \/>\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                    <\/a><br \/>\n                <\/noscript>\n            <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The FT also said the consortium, called the Beijing Open Source Chip Research Institute, has already developed a high-performance RISC-V chip named Xiangshan. The newspaper said the chip is meant to rival Arm technology, but it didn&#8217;t specify which core design in Arm&#8217;s portfolio. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Alibaba and Tencent have already launched their own Arm-based chips, but there is apparently trepidation at both companies about Arm&#8217;s future in China.<\/p>\n<p>The newspaper reported that Alibaba and China&#8217;s ByteDance, the owner of TikTok, already had plans underway to develop RISC-V chips for AI and datacenter applications. This goes beyond what we previously knew about Alibaba&#8217;s RISC-V plans, which were mostly limited to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/08\/25\/alibaba_riscv_developer_platform\/\">edge and IoT appliances<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>One senior engineer at T-head, Alibaba&#8217;s chip division, told the newspaper that the company&#8217;s goal is to replace its Arm chips &#8220;in our most advanced products.&#8221; The FT also quoted a Tencent engineer, who called Arm &#8220;too risky now.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\">\n            <noscript><br \/>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_onprem\/systems&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Y4gF1XPLr90aKMFdD@1A@QAAAM4&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt=\"\"\/><br \/>\n                <\/a><br \/>\n            <\/noscript>\n        <\/div>\n<p>While one Chinese official described the consortium&#8217;s RISC-V efforts as being on the &#8220;right track,&#8221; the official added that the ISA&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/04\/01\/riscv_fragmentation\/\">fragmentation issues<\/a> have slowed down efforts to replace Arm designs.<\/p>\n<p>China&#8217;s creation of the Beijing Open Source Chip Research Institute is the country&#8217;s latest step in embracing RISC-V as a way to escape <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2022\/10\/21\/economic_cold_war_looms_as\/\" rel=\"noopener\">sanctions led by the US<\/a>. 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