{"id":126421,"date":"2026-05-11T15:19:45","date_gmt":"2026-05-11T15:19:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2026\/05\/11\/gtk2-ng-next-generation-of-gtk-2-comes-back-to-life\/"},"modified":"2026-05-11T15:20:42","modified_gmt":"2026-05-11T15:20:42","slug":"gtk2-ng-next-generation-of-gtk-2-comes-back-to-life","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/index.php\/2026\/05\/11\/gtk2-ng-next-generation-of-gtk-2-comes-back-to-life\/","title":{"rendered":"Gtk2-NG, next generation of Gtk 2, comes back to life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.fiverr.com\/visit\/?bta=1052423&nci=17043\" Target=\"_Top\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/fiverr.ck-cdn.com\/tn\/serve\/?cid=40081059\"  width=\"601\" height=\"201\"><\/a>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mailinvest.blog\/wp-content\/themes\/breek\/assets\/images\/transparent.gif\" data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/image.theregister.com\/5238016.jpg?imageId=5238016&amp;x=0&amp;y=9.17&amp;cropw=100&amp;croph=71.67&amp;panox=0&amp;panoy=9.17&amp;panow=100&amp;panoh=71.67&amp;width=1200&amp;height=683\" \/><\/p>\n<div data-element-guid=\"d11159dd-82a3-4c53-901c-d41dec75505c\">\n<p class=\"kicker t14\" style=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/oses\">OSes<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"subtitle t21\" style=\"\">Debian 14 plans to ax Gtk2 \u2013 and arduous pruning stimulates contemporary development<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-element-guid=\"4c9dc5d9-c886-4348-bf4a-01d0dc71377d\">\n<p>An effort to revive and reinvigorate the 2002 Gtk2 GUI<br \/>\nprogramming toolkit is rising and gaining curiosity\u2026 as we predicted would occur a<br \/>\nfew months in the past.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/git.devuan.org\/Daemonratte\/gtk2-ng\">gtk2-ng<\/a><br \/>\nundertaking is reviving and modernizing Gtk2 model 2, which the GNOME<br \/>\nbuilders declared lifeless again in 2020. We held off on reporting this for<br \/>\nsome time to see if the concept would acquire some help, and it does appear to<br \/>\nprofitable curiosity and followers.<\/p>\n<p>Reviving a 24-year-old toolkit that reached its official end-of-life<br \/>\nsix years in the past is a retrospective type of enterprise, and as such, it<br \/>\nappeals to some modern-but-nostalgic growth initiatives. Growth<br \/>\nis hosted on the Git occasion of the Devuan undertaking, the systemd-free<br \/>\nfork of Debian. (Final 12 months, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2025\/06\/20\/new-version-of-xorg-x11-xlibre-fork-gathers-support\/469472\">Devuan<br \/>\nannounced its support of Xlibre<\/a>, the X.org fork that goals to<br \/>\nre-invigorate X11 growth.) Nevertheless, developer Daemonratte introduced<br \/>\nthe fork in a thread on the boards of the Pale Moon browser: <a href=\"https:\/\/forum.palemoon.org\/viewtopic.php?f=25&amp;t=33365\">GTK2<br \/>\nrevival<\/a>. Pale Moon, as we <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2021\/11\/04\/waterfox-a-firefox-fork-that-could-teach-mozilla-a-lesson\/1355827\">described<br \/>\nin 2021<\/a>, is a unbroken fork of an early model of Firefox.<\/p>\n<p>Again in February, once we lined the information that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2026\/02\/26\/debian-14-will-drop-gtk2-unless-ardour-rides-to-the-rescue\/4632338\">Debian<br \/>\n14 planned to drop Gtk2<\/a>, we talked about that this would possibly present the<br \/>\nimpetus for a fork.<\/p>\n<p>This isn\u2019t the primary such fork, and we talked about then that the Passion<br \/>\ndigital audio workstation we final <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2022\/10\/18\/foss-digital-audio-workstation-ardour-reaches-version-7\/655533\">looked<br \/>\nat in 2022<\/a> maintains its personal inner model referred to as YTK.<br \/>\nDaemonratte says that they\u2019ve already included some fixes from that,<br \/>\nand in addition from an <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/stefan11111\/gtk2\">earlier<br \/>\nfork by stefan11111<\/a> which has been inactive for a few years.<br \/>\nThey then define the present targets:<\/p>\n<p>Present standing:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p>Making it Y2K38-safe<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Eliminating all deprecation warnings<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Patching it for NetBSD and backporting NetBSD-specific<br \/>\npatches<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Testing it on all types of {hardware}<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Additional modernization with out breaking ABI<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Future plans:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p>Implement contact help and easy scrolling from Passion\u2019s ytk<br \/>\nwith out breaking ABI, so Passion will be compiled in opposition to gtk2<br \/>\nonce more<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Closely foyer for its adoption within the BSD and systemdfree Linux<br \/>\nworld<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Reimplement GtkMozEmbed for UXP, so this glorious engine will be<br \/>\nutilized in gtk2 initiatives<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Gtk initially stood for GIMP Instrument Package: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gimp.org\/about\/ancient_history.html\">30 years ago<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhen the GIMP picture editor made its public d\u00e9but, Gtk was the set of<br \/>\ninstruments GIMP\u2019s authors created to make it simpler to write down GUI apps in C.<br \/>\nSix years later, <a href=\"https:\/\/mail.gnome.org\/archives\/gtk-devel-list\/2002-March\/msg00161.html\">GTK+<br \/>\n2.0.0 appeared<\/a>. The brand new plus image in its identify represented a brand new <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120326131857\/http:\/\/developer.gnome.org\/gtk-faq\/stable\/x90.html\">object-oriented<br \/>\ndesign<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>When Miguel de Icaza <a href=\"https:\/\/mail.gnome.org\/archives\/gtk-list\/1997-August\/msg00123.html\">announced<br \/>\nthe GNOME desktop project<\/a> in 1997, it adopted Gtk as a substitute of the<br \/>\nthen-semi-commercial Qt that KDE used. Since then, Gtk has been<br \/>\ndeveloped together with GNOME. GIMP growth is comparatively gradual: the<br \/>\ngroup <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2025\/03\/20\/gimp-wakes-up-from-seven-year-coma-with-version-30\/604637\">finally<br \/>\nreleased version 3.0<\/a> a 12 months in the past, and it makes use of Gtk 3. (Final month, it<br \/>\nlaunched <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gimp.org\/news\/2026\/04\/19\/gimp-3-2-4-released\/\">version<br \/>\n3.2.4<\/a>.) Since launch, although, the GNOME undertaking has launched 39<br \/>\nnumbered variations, and in latest many years Gtk has saved tempo with GNOME,<br \/>\nnot GIMP.<\/p>\n<p>The final model of Gtk 2 was <a href=\"https:\/\/mail.gnome.org\/archives\/gtk-devel-list\/2011-January\/msg00042.html\">GTK+<br \/>\n2.24.0<\/a> in 2012. The GNOME builders formally stated it was<br \/>\nend-of-life with the <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.gtk.org\/2020\/12\/16\/gtk-4-0\/\">release of Gtk 4<\/a> in<br \/>\n2020.<\/p>\n<p>Gtk2-ng is much from the one undertaking to fork and revive an older<br \/>\nmodel of a undertaking which has since been outdated by newer variations<br \/>\nfrom the unique group. One of many apparent ones is the <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20140821024415\/https:\/\/bbs.archlinux.org\/viewtopic.php?id=121162\">MATE<br \/>\ndesktop<\/a>, which Argentinian developer <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20140821024415\/https:\/\/bbs.archlinux.org\/viewtopic.php?id=121162\">Perberos<br \/>\nannounced in 2011<\/a>. Saying that, although, Daemonratte <a href=\"https:\/\/forum.palemoon.org\/viewtopic.php?p=272634&amp;sid=ccbad2e2822a58f3735a5366b4afb4c5#p272634\">stated<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The last word imaginative and prescient of this fork is to maintain gtk2 alive for software program<br \/>\nutilizing it proper now and to revive gtk2 variations of [\u2026] Gnome2 [\u2026]. Sure, I<br \/>\ndon\u2019t have to do that alone and no, Mate is just not an choice, as a result of they<br \/>\nuse gtk3 now.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is rather a lot not alone. Now we have been overlaying releases of KDE 3<br \/>\nfork the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.trinitydesktop.org\/\">Trinity desktop<br \/>\nenvironment<\/a> since <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/software\/2021\/11\/09\/new-versions-for-the-tde-and-lxqt-linux-desktops\/1450179\">version<br \/>\n14.0.11 in 2021<\/a>. This vulture used KDE 1.x again when it was the<br \/>\nstate of the Linux artwork, and for us, KDE 3.x was already too huge and<br \/>\nsophisticated.<\/p>\n<p>For the KDE undertaking\u2019s twentieth anniversary in 2016, Brazilian developer<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/heliocastro.info\/author\/helio-chissini-de-castro.html\">Helio<br \/>\nChissini de Castro<\/a> modernized KDE 1 in order that it will <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20161014044730\/https:\/\/www.heliocastro.info\/?p=291\">build<br \/>\nand run on Fedora 25<\/a>. We didn\u2019t notice this had develop into an ongoing<br \/>\neffort, nevertheless it has. From <a href=\"https:\/\/forum.palemoon.org\/viewtopic.php?p=272879#p272879\">later<\/a><br \/>\nwithin the Gtk-ng thread, we realized about <a href=\"https:\/\/libranext.com\/midesktop\/\">MiDesktop<\/a>, a unbroken<br \/>\nundertaking based mostly on <a href=\"https:\/\/libranext.com\/home\/osiris\/\">Osiris<\/a>, a modernized Qt<br \/>\n2. \u00ae<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<iframe data-lazy=\"true\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets?id=U2FsdGVkX18x7XQvttUTrv1oEqmGNGTgvvCUiUoJ\/AP4z\/UyMz8lXGOLpu15jIMxBbTR0gmD5uBoFvhC4KWeALQRp3h\/X\/AwcVD0K8Wj9H\/ZzYKzcCNHosB9oS4SCJJFWiN85P9ICAc4OgCoE\/wHKIY7CDkf2\/DQ1vqGvk4smVe5cRDEmrLPCWi4FC8p40VUhSmWQ5udCm0zoJtorgWv3vbDQw0kKYkwn39ozAnQXDe+YvWMxkLFWA+O3TFwkJvdkIK+\/AUSnRssPKt5WHY0FhNOxnSPcLslEL4G4\/RfP95ve99U+kRnDy3X+KtzdQLY+u935ghON\/o3UE4IMv9oN6JX9RnxzL\/LRcOgnHigxStSGPKsZYtnz8RWNVT\/rOLAibqiWJadC5MYHRbekF3eg6FOGrQGkXYbsn0+a5aovnlLCbLwIqY9fcS17UX8J235iQ6cdmHNbrPeS84CMm34RA==&affiliate_id=1052423&strip_google_tagmanager=true\" loading=\"lazy\" data-with-title=\"true\" class=\"fiverr_nga_frame\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-mode=\"random_gigs\" onload=\" var frame = this; var script = document.createElement('script'); script.addEventListener('load', function() { window.FW_SDK.register(frame); }); script.setAttribute('src', 'https:\/\/www.fiverr.com\/gig_widgets\/sdk'); document.body.appendChild(script); \" ><\/iframe>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/a\/5237970\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OSes Debian 14 plans to ax Gtk2 \u2013 and arduous pruning stimulates contemporary development An effort to revive and reinvigorate the 2002 Gtk2 GUI programming&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":126422,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-126421","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tech-universe"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Gtk2-NG, next generation of Gtk 2, comes back to life - mailinvest.blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Technology is forever changing, and there are always new pieces of technology to replace obsolete ones. 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